tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36915254.post3160493709149292604..comments2023-02-21T11:18:49.135+01:00Comments on Process transformation - interventions for meaningful change: Additional thoughts on BPM architectureRoeland Loggenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02744153944427657174noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36915254.post-80012604391091665532007-08-30T03:46:00.000+02:002007-08-30T03:46:00.000+02:00Hi Roeland,I agree with you that a service-based a...Hi Roeland,<BR/><BR/>I agree with you that a service-based approach to integrations such as I suggested does need extra control, though I think this is completely do-able. Any integration requires the interacting components to connect correctly and talk according to a predefined contract. Using services in an 'enclosed' system like this is no different.<BR/><BR/>All that said, I think I wrote my discussion with a specific integration platform in mind (one I work with), so its likely that some of the capabilities of that platform for combining components like Decision Management and CEP were in the back of my mind as I wrote.<BR/><BR/>Either way, I still think that there should be a general connectedness and availability of components, so that customers can use the system in ways that the original designers had never envisaged. That of course requires a platform that is flexible and dynamic, but really can be done.<BR/><BR/>I am interested in the discussion that you and James are having - I'm definitely learning about some new interactions around EDM, CEP and BAM.<BR/><BR/>Nice post!<BR/><BR/>PhilPhil Ayreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14708790980510403134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36915254.post-77045183423673927362007-08-29T00:22:00.000+02:002007-08-29T00:22:00.000+02:00the role of the decision platform in BAM comes whe...the role of the decision platform in BAM comes when you must combine activity monitoring (account emptied, say) with a business decision (customer who emptied the account is a good one). The BAM component should not encapsulate a decision that is not specific to activity monitoring - this should be managed as a distinct decision.<BR/>One of the most interesting discussions I saw around how various kinds of process management and decisions interact was from Maureen Fleming of IDC. In <A HREF="http://www.ebizq.net/blogs/decision_management/2007/05/bpm_in_2007_and_beyond.php" REL="nofollow">this post</A> I tried to show how decision services can help with the transfer or activity from automated processes to manual investigation or from sense/respond to exception handling. In general process platforms do a better job of including people than decision platforms (at least the way I mean them). That said, people like <A HREF="http://www.robustdecisions.com/" REL="nofollow">Robust Decisions</A> do sell platforms for managing people-centric decision making and one could consider a decision platform as combining business rules, analytic execution AND human decision support components.<BR/>As for the decision hub piece this is more a logical than a physical construct. The problem is that if it is not easy to externalize and manage decisions they get buried in code or processes. A decision service hub infrastructure makes it easier for projects to manage decisions properly and that's its core appeal. The deployment of the decision services should still be distributed.<BR/>JTJames Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04589456040368641147noreply@blogger.com